For many beginners, daygame is the easier place to start, because daytime is calmer, quieter and lower stakes. But the honest answer is that you should start with the one you will actually go out and do. Learn both in time. The skills overlap more than most men think.

If you are choosing right now, use the setting that worries you least for your first few weeks, and add the other one when the first stops feeling hard.

What each one is

Daygame is approaching women during the day, in streets, cafes, parks and shops. Night game is meeting women in the evening, in bars, lounges and clubs. Both are part of a Cold Approach Bootcamp, and the mix is set to suit the student.

How the two feel different

Pace. In the day, women are often moving somewhere. At night, in a bar or lounge, they are already there to spend the evening, so they have time.

Noise. Daytime is quiet enough to hear each other. A loud room makes every sentence harder and pushes you toward shorter, simpler exchanges.

Groups. At night women are often in groups, and approaching a group is a skill of its own. In daytime, many women are alone.

How you talk. a dating coach splits conversation into baseline, which is normal conversation, and plotline, which is the spikier teasing and playful pushing. In daytime you use more baseline and less plotline than at night. He tells men moving from night game to daygame to tone down the games and spend more time genuinely getting to know the woman.

Why many men start with daytime

Daytime tends to feel lower pressure. Nobody is performing for a crowd, and you can leave a cafe conversation without a scene. That makes it easier to build the habit of walking over.

a dating coach says of one bootcamp student that the many day game approaches he did "really warmed him up for the night game sessions." The first approach of any session is the hardest one, and daytime lets you make it in a gentler place.

If the idea of a bar makes your stomach drop, start in daytime.

When night game should come first

Some men find evenings easier. If you are more comfortable in a bar than on a sidewalk, if your days are packed with work, or if the music and the crowd make you feel less visible, start there.

There is no rule that you must begin in daylight. The rule is that the first reps happen. A man who goes out three evenings a week beats a man who plans to start daygame next month.

What carries over between them

Almost everything that matters. Walking over without waiting for the perfect moment, opening honestly, listening, showing real interest, and ending a conversation well all work in both settings. So does handling rejection without letting it decide the rest of your day.

The four parts a Bootcamp teaches, approaching and conversation, attraction and delivery, numbers and dates, and rejection and follow-through, do not belong to one time of day.

How a Bootcamp mixes them

Every training day is two four-hour blocks in the field. The days are not a Day 1 for daytime and a Day 2 for night. Every day focuses on the same things, and you do both daygame and night game, or whatever combination best suits the students in that program.

That is useful for a man who cannot decide. You tell your coach which setting scares you more, and the days lean toward the other one first. Both Group, at a 3:1 ratio, and Private, fully one-on-one for one, two or three days, work this way.

A simple way to decide

  1. Which setting can you actually get to this week? Pick that one.
  2. Which one makes you more nervous? Plan to add it within a month.
  3. Do you have a coach? If so, ask him to weight your first sessions.

For the evening side, 8 ways to get good at night game fast is a useful start.