There is no single number. A price is a rip-off when you cannot see what it buys, or when it buys much less than the page implies. The way to judge it is to work out the hours you spend in the field approaching women, how many other students share the coach, and what you leave with, then compare programs on that basis, not on the headline price.
Start with hours, not the price
A high price attached to eight hours of lecture is a poor deal. A moderate price attached to twenty-four hours in the field with a coach next to you may be a good one. The sticker tells you nothing until you divide it by something real.
Ask any program for three numbers: how many hours you will spend with the coach, how many students are in the group, and how much of that time is actual approaching.
What the public numbers look like at Cold Approach
Our Bootcamp prices are public, so the arithmetic is easy. Every training day is two four-hour coaching blocks, which makes eight hours a day.
- Group, $3,000. Three consecutive days, so 24 hours in the field, with three students to each coach. That comes to about $125 for each hour of coaching time, shared with two other students.
- Private, 3 days, $4,000. 24 hours, fully 1-on-1, which is about $167 an hour.
- Private, 2 days, $3,000. 16 hours, about $188 an hour.
- Private, 1 day, $1,750. 8 hours, about $219 an hour.
Longer private programs are available and quoted on request. Filming is a separate $350 add-on, and the program does not include it in the core price.
Those are our numbers, and you should hold them to the same test as anyone else's. They are a fair way to see how the price scales with attention. Private costs more per hour because the coach's whole focus is on you, and a one-day program costs more per hour because less is spread over it.
What else the price should cover
A clean price is one that tells you what is and is not included. Ask:
- Is there a charge for filming, a follow-up, or extras?
- What do you leave with? At Cold Approach, a written practice plan and access to the community Slack. There is no follow-up call, and we say so.
- Are travel, lodging and meals included? Ask, because they can add a lot to the real cost.
- What happens if you cannot attend? Ask before you pay.
What makes a price a rip-off
- It is hidden. If you must book a call to learn a fixed program's price, you cannot compare.
- It rises on the call. The page says one number and the call says another.
- It is tied to a promise. A price justified by "you will get X dates" is justified by something no coach controls.
- It has no hours or ratio attached. A big number with no schedule is a number you cannot evaluate.
- It comes with pressure. A discount that expires tonight is a reason to wait, not to rush.
- It is followed by upsells. If the first purchase leads straight into more purchases for the same thing, read the whole offer first.
What about cheaper options?
A single 1-on-1 call costs $250 at Cold Approach and suits one specific problem: a conversation that went wrong, a text, a date. It is a different product from in-person coaching, and it cannot show a coach what you actually do on a street. How Much Does a Dating Coach Cost? compares the options side by side.
If you only need an answer to a question, a call is a fair price. If your issue is that you hesitate, lock up or lose conversations in person, hours in the field are what change it, and that is where the higher price goes.
What is worth paying for
Pay for attention. A man gets the most from coaching when the coach watches what he does and corrects it quickly, because the gap between what he thinks he is doing and what he is doing is the thing that holds most men back. a dating coach says "sometimes major mistakes you're making in field can be corrected with literally one comment."
That is also why a cheap program that never watches you is not cheap. If it does not change what you do, you have paid for nothing.
A simple way to decide
Put each program's price next to the hours, the ratio and what you leave with. Cross out any number you cannot find. If you are left with a program that tells you all of it, and the cost per hour is something you are comfortable with, it is not a rip-off. If you are left with blanks, ask for the numbers, and if they do not come, move on.
Written by Matthew Stevens, Co-Founder & Head Coach. More than half a decade coaching men across the US and worldwide.
Everything here comes out of real coaching work: the approaches, dates, texts and profiles we go through with the men we coach.




















