The men giving you dating advice at a barbecue mostly met their wives before any of this existed. They are confident, they mean well, and almost none of what they say survives contact with an actual app.
That is not a knock on them. It is a description of the problem you have. You are being coached on a system by people who have never used it, and their advice all points at the same lever: try harder.
What they say, and why it lands wrong
Just be yourself. True at a table and useless on a screen. Being yourself is what happens on the date. What happens before the date is a set of photographs and about forty words, judged in under a second by somebody who will never meet the rest of you unless those two things do their job.
Just message more people. This is the one that has eaten the most evenings of capable men. Volume only multiplies whatever your profile is already producing. If the photos are not working, a hundred more openers gets you a hundred more of nothing, slower, with less patience left at the end.
Just put up a nice photo. They mean the one from the wedding where you look smart. A single good picture is not the unit here. The set is, and the order it sits in is the sequence of questions she asks as she taps: what you look like, then what your life looks like, then who is around you. Most men have never owned a set like that, which is why the advice sounds easy and produces nothing.
You are being too picky. Usually said to a man whose problem is the opposite. He is not turning down a queue of women he likes. He has almost no queue at all, and the small amount of interest arriving is not well matched to him because nothing about his profile says who he is for.
Meet someone in real life instead. Meeting women in person is a real skill and a good one to have, and plenty of men are better off learning it. It is also a completely different activity with its own practice and its own nerve. It does not fix your apps. Telling a man with a dead profile to go talk to strangers is advice about a second project, handed over as a solution to the first.
Why the advice is so confident
Because for them it worked. They met someone through friends, or at work, or on an early version of a site that felt nothing like the current ones. They ran a system that no longer exists, got a result, and remember the result rather than the conditions.
And there is a second thing underneath it. Their advice quietly assumes the bottleneck is effort. It was, for them. Effort was almost the whole game when the meeting happened in a room. On an app the effort is the cheap part, and a man can pour an hour a day into it for a year with a profile that was never going to carry him.
What the system actually rewards
It is worth saying the shape of it plainly, because nobody ever explains it to men and they end up blaming themselves for the wrong thing.
The photographs decide how much interest arrives at all. The written half decides whether interest turns into a conversation. The messaging decides whether a conversation turns into an evening, and that is mostly about whether someone proposes a drink in the short window where it is natural instead of a fortnight later. And the running of it daily decides whether any of it stays alive, because an account nobody has touched since Sunday produces almost nothing by Thursday.
Four separate things. Your friends' advice touches one of them, sometimes, by accident.
The one thing they are right about
Do not throw all of it out.
The part they are right about is the part they actually know. Be good company. Turn up, be relaxed, be interested in her, do not spend the evening auditioning. That advice is older than any app and it still decides whether there is a second date. They learned it in a room and it is still true.
The mistake is not their advice. It is the assumption that the room part is the hard part for you. It usually is not. You are perfectly fine once you are sitting down with her. The problem is that you are almost never sitting down with anyone.
What it looks like when the other four get handled
Our team redoes your dating photos, built from ordinary selfies with no shoot on your end, then rebuilds the whole profile around them, including the order of the images and all the small fields that quietly decide whether she swipes.
Then the apps get run every day, on every app you want to be on, the selective ones such as Raya, The League, Luxy or Inner Circle included, on the accounts you already have. Interest gets read against what you said you wanted. Conversations get carried in your register, and the evening gets proposed while the window is open. It keeps getting adjusted against what is actually producing dates, rather than being handed back to you as a finished file to maintain in the gaps of your week.
Then you do the part your friends were talking about all along. You turn up and are good company.
The short version
The people telling you to try harder are describing a game they won under different rules. Trying harder at a profile that is not working is the most expensive thing a man can do with his evenings, and it is the default advice he gets from everyone who loves him.
Your first date within a week, or we keep working. After that the target is 2-3 dates each week, and the hour a day you were spending comes back.
Written by Matthew Stevens, Co-Founder & Head Coach. More than half a decade coaching men across the US and worldwide.
Everything here comes out of real coaching work: the approaches, dates, texts and profiles we go through with the men we coach.
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